I’ve been to alot of rallies/demos/civil disobedience/tear-gas riots, etc. in DC and been busted a few times. None of those - and even Dr. King’s Poor Peoples March upon which this is based - were as dominated by clergy and calls for “morality” as this one seems to be. To me, that’s an extremely severe organizing problem.
I salute the PPC for their program (which includes an anti-imperial, anti-military take), their intentions and their overall goals. But I fear that the religious/“morality” basis leaves out a vast majority of the people in the U.S., including the poor people who the march leaders purport to represent. And I really don’t think potential allies around the globe would get this at all since the vast majority are not Christian and the most active are atheistic/agnostic/leftist to whom religion is not an organizing basis.
Columbus, OH USA
If its going to be the same as the Womens March, they will fail. Cardboard signs, pacifism, speeches, then maybe a variety show with singers? Unless people bring self defense weapons and do some police damage when they are being arrested, the murderes will laugh hiding in their ivory towers. We know the main culprits behind the extermination plan: Trump, Ryan, McConnell and Sessions. Surround their residences and work places. Make their lives as miserable as they have made ours. Make this Rally count for something! This may be our last chance before they lock us all up in cages… and… they will!
Here is what one religious figure says about it:
After listening to Rev. Barber who made his plea for inclusiveness I realized we could reduce all the many differences to one overarching commonality: We are human beings. We co-exist and share One Life with ALL other life-forms. I think this is the essence of all moral philosophy, religious or otherwise.
See that you moved to Ohio and I am sure you are busy there too fighting the good fight. I am planning to return to NY and joining a cooperative there and will get involved in the fight there too.
Yup. A world-class preacher who was moving away from liberalism and to hard-core anti-imperialism and socialism.
This campaign seems to lack a focus. Campaigns that have succeeded had much more limited goals. This campaign is basically built around a left wing wish list. I don’t think politicians can effectively respond to so many diverse demands coming from one campaign
Peace, Health, Luck and Solidarity in the new leg of your journey. You have stated quite beautifully what is now being called Gaia - as in the biosphere as a single being rather than a collection of individual beings and environments. Our energies interact on many levels and all that.
Here in Columbus we are starting with our garden and small community things and growing out from that. I haven’t been involved in any formal organizing yet. We do change with age and that particular energy changes as well. I have to learn to be more efficient and humble to be effective in what organizing I attempt to participate in. My sore back from weeding tomatoes today helps with the humble part.
Best to You and Yours and hoping you continue to bring your useful and revolutionary energy to CD in the many ways that you do.
Politicians only respond to clear demands backed up by power. The “left wing wish list” is actually a quite clear program worth working and fighting for. This movement needs to work on the building power part.
Stop having children and it will help to relieve your poverty.
The climate has changed. Habitat overshoot is real.
Rich, poor or otherwise, we live on a planet and resources are finite. Millions of refugees can attest to this, and millions more are on the way.
All of these people wrapped in robes thinking religion and prayer will change that, who ignore planned parenthood and the science of habitat, those people too are the problem.
There is no sky deity coming to save you.
Thanks and same to you and yours. We are in the planning stage right now and looking for a suitable place. It could take up to a year. In the meanwhile I got the cooperation of my local library to start a discussion group of the “Great Ideas” and our first turn out was pretty good for a small population. One of the things I will start in NY. We are calling it The Agora, as in
The agora was a central public space in ancient Greek city-states. The literal meaning of the word is “gathering place” or “assembly”. The agora was the center of the athletic, artistic, spiritual and political life of the city. The Ancient Agora of Athens was the best-known example.
Why is it a ‘wish list?’ These are not unreasonable demands. And they are very much inter-connected. They all relate to a system of government that sacrifices the many for the few. Incrementalism will keep us in bondage forever. I would march with these people any time!
Look at China’s approach to funding “communities of common destiny”. Certainly a be careful what you wish for moment. Socialism can have a dark side.
As a humanist-atheist, I have absolutely no interest whatsoever of participating or supporting the Poor People’s Campaign – even though I fully agree with what they are fighting for – that is completely dominated by theists.
For humanitarian needs, I will continue to support (verbally, physically and financially) the Foundation Beyond Belief (https://foundationbeyondbelief.org/) which can be simply summed up as:
We are Humanism at Work
Foundation Beyond Belief is a humanist charity that promotes secular volunteering and responsible charitable giving. Guided by the principles of secular humanism, our mission is to:
- Unite the humanist community in volunteering and charitable efforts.
- Advocate for compassionate action throughout the world.
We forward our mission through our programs: Grants, Disaster Recovery, Service Corps, and Volunteer Network.
Attended the rally in DC and the PPC is the real deal. Words and phrases I heard from the speakers: Capitalism, imperialism, class rule, military-industrial complex, no turning back, and much more.
No politicians were allowed on the platform and BOTH parties were excoriated. This was nothing like Women’s or Gun Violence marches. Rev. Barber and others made it clear that after more organizing and increasing the membership, massive civil disobedience and “shutting down the system” will be in order. There is no good reason why anyone seriously committed to social change should not be joining and working with the PPC. P.s. Yes, people of faith are in key roles but this left-wing atheist has felt welcomed with open arms from the very beginning.
I see that you are as obtuse as usual. I guess you’re going to tell us to vote for the democrats because they will fix things for us, am I right?
Do you know how much wealth inequality went during Obama’s tenure? Yep. He thought it was more important to bail out the banks then help the people who put him into office.
BTW. Have you noticed how many democrats have been voting with the republicans to pass Trump’s legislations? Now why in hell would I vote for a party that stabs me in my back?
Poor children are our chiidren!!!
All of the most successful movements for progress - from South Africa, to India to Palestine to the USA in the 1960s have had a religious dimension. All of the most effective leaders in the antiwar movement in the US in the 1960s - from MLK to the Berrigans were clergy.