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The 3 Americans Who Should Pay for Medicare-for-All


#1

The 3 Americans Who Should Pay for Medicare-for-All

Paul Buchheit

Of course, it will pay for itself eventually, with lower administrative costs and savings on medications and provider fees.


#2

While I completely agree with this analysis, it avoids the elephant in the room: military spending. If the US chose to make peace instead of war, how to pay for single-payer would not be an issue.


#3

Jeepers, even with the military spending left as it it, it would be cheaper.

Mind you, Americans keep insisting on electing corrupt, non-representative politicians whose fealty is to corporations, so they’d probably pass a law that would force everyone to keep paying insurance premiums even though medical care is paid for by single-payer government-provided medicare paid by taxes.


#4

Hello lobo4justice, Even if the military budget was cut do you actually think that most, if not any, of that spending would be used for anything but making the obscenely wealthy even more obscenely wealthy?


#5

Lobo,

You, and John Lennon think alike. His song, “Give Peace a Chance” which was written for all of us, seems to have reached only a few of us.


#6

The class system has now been made clear. The class that print an endless amount of money for themselves is separate from the ones that can’t. Those who own stocks think they are part of this class. They will realize soon they are not.


#7

From your pen to the Goddess’ ears! May it be so, and right-quick!


#8

If you read HR 676 the plan is to include military health care which is actually UNIVERSAL health care NOT single payer into the Medicare for All plan. I guess the real impact of 17 years of war on military spending for health care would be reduced. Do you agree?


#9

The inequality makes one sick. I went to a paper by two University of California, Berkeley, scholars that claims that since 1986 or the mid 1980s the lower saving 90% of the U.S. population has experienced no increase in wealth at all, and their share of total wealth has declined from 35% to 23%. In those 26 years of the study why haven’t 90% of Americans been able to save and increase their total savings? Did the economy tank? The top-earning 160,000 households, some 0.1% of households, have increased their share of wealth from 7% to 22%. The lower half of U.S. families own just 1.1% of all wealth, and that’s from a study by the Congressional Research Service in 2011. The difference in wealth between a family in the lower half and one in the top 0.1% is a multiple of 16,000 or more. It’s incredible, and in a comment I don’t want to go into it (but a glimpse at the Introduction of this paper by Saez and Zucman of UCBerkeley will give the reader the evidence, 􏰅􏰂"􏰋􏰍􏰎􏰏􏰄􏰈􏰀􏰂􏰐􏰑􏰋􏰍􏰈􏰎􏰒􏰄􏰈􏰀􏰄􏰎􏰏􏰂􏰄􏰑􏰀􏰈􏰎􏰂􏰓􏰄􏰌􏰎􏰋􏰎􏰂􏰌􏰄􏰌􏰈􏰀􏰔􏰂􏰄􏰕􏰖􏰕􏰗􏰘 􏰂􏰙􏰈􏰓􏰂􏰀􏰔􏰂􏰄􏰚􏰃􏰆􏰛􏰄􏰔􏰋􏰊􏰈􏰎􏰋􏰍􏰈􏰜􏰂􏰓􏰄􏰈􏰀􏰔􏰆􏰛􏰂􏰄􏰎􏰋􏰝􏰄􏰓􏰋􏰎􏰋Wealth Inequality in the United states since 1913: Evidence from Capitalized Income Tax Data"). We should find a way to directly tax wealth. Each family in the top 160,000 owns on average $130 million, in the lower half the average is less than $8,000. The multiple is 16,250. I’m feeling a little sick as I try to make sense of these facts. OK, I’ll add a little more. Saez, Piketty and Zucman published another paper on income (not wealth) claiming that the average income for the lower earning half of American adults since 1980 has increased from $16,000 a year to $16,230, about a 1% increase. The income for the top one percent tripled, a rise of 200%. The gap between those two group average incomes increased from a multiple of 27 to 81, a tripling of the gap. So what has happened in the U.S. economy? Workers’ incomes at the bottom have stalled or shrunk. Workers need more power, simply, and government needs to make rules to give them more power, and then I think workers will use that power. But first we all should start taxing the wealth at the top. Thanks Paul B, another well researched paper.


#10

Until we get a different bunch of politicians and 4-5 different parties, instead of the Deep State Uniparty, this goal of Sen. Sanders, is unachievable. We need to break up with the Democratic Party.
At every turn the Democratic Party refuses to fight for progressive causes, and instead uses terms/groups like 3rd Way and No Labels to prop up and perpetuate center-right policies that accomplish nothing of benefit for 90% of the citizenry of the U.S. And, that behavior and yielding
is cowering to their donor-class, nothing more.
The Democratic Party and their " Neo-Liberal " power brokers have now normalized the Trump Administration. The Trumpster, who tomorrow is addressing the U.N., after checking in with Netanyahu, of course. The War Pigs from Hell, ascend. Where’s the outrage. And, along with the MSM, have now let a bunch of thugs, willful idiots and crooked scum pretend to know what they’re doing, regarding running the country. Disgusting! And, so very dangerous, too.
Hyper-militarism of the domestic Police & Security State, no problem. War on the Korean Peninsula, no problem. Continued ass kissing of Saudi Arabian and Israeli interests in the MENA, no problem. War with Iran, no problem. Lousy healthcare, no problem. Tax cuts, no problem. The litany of their Establishment capitulations just goes on, and on… With the Democratic leadership in complete sellout mode to their rank-and-file party members, the time has come to just walk away. With increasing regulatory the DNC and the Democratic Congressional members have chosen to lock arms with wealthy interests; the Corporate PTB pulling them into the orbit of the Neo-Fascists and Trump.
DINOS run the Democratic Party and it’s time to pack up and run away from them and their MSM collaborators, as fast as possible. Like, pronto.
We won’t get anything, from decent healthcare to a living wage, to a better environment, to an end to unnecessary conflicts from these current bunch of sellouts. They just don’t have the guts for a real fight about anything of substance. Nadda! And, progressives should be utterly sick of it.


#11

It needs to be more than just alive – we need to guarantee that everyone in this nation has a good quality of life!


#12

Remove the middlemen and the corruption.

Blockchain Democracy


#13

What needs to happen is that they also need to look at the healthcare that vets and their families receive – my husband is over 100% disabled b/c of Agent Orange exposure, he gets his medical care for free, and my care is thru CHAMPVA – I pay a whopping $50 a year for care. I think the VA medical care model is the closest thing we have to single payer and if it works as well as it does, paying to cover everyone in this country wouldn’t be an issue. **I agree that we need to cut way down on what we’re spending to fight wars – none of the wars we have fought have been to bring democracy to those countries so there’s no reason to invade ANY country!


#14

What happens if we turn tail and run? Go to a third party and lose as usual? (Dis)armed revolution? Feel self righteous on the way to the camps? Move to Canada? Mexico? Let the Koch’s, the Trumps, the oligarchy have our country? Surrender? Seriously?

Taking back the Party for Progressive Democrats, forming coalitions with third parties, running candidates against the DINOS is a winning proposition. We have the best opportunity now. Do not waste it and don’t let Koch propaganda convince you otherwise.

Using social media to hurt and destroy is callous, acted out by cowards hiding behind computers. My advice is to ignore negativity. Focus on the love around.
Martin Garrix


#15

The only thing progressives can do to make the Dems progressive is to vote progressive in sufficient numbers to scare the Dems into it. It worked for Eugene Debs and the Socialists.


#16

The worst day in the life of the American Military Industrial Complex was the day the Soviet Union called it quits. That was real trauma for the profiteers.


#17

Making the players pay


#18

Well gee, you can’t give the upper crust small subsidies like poor folk, three thousand smackers won’t even pay for a dinner party for them. Three grand for a minimum wage earner is a windfall. Maybe the reason that the rich get so much is because there are so few of them.


#19

There’s plenty of evidence Trump has his own Alt-Right Party, formed. And, they’re not Conservative, they’re just Trumpster Voters. Their mission is to tear down or tear apart everything, it seems. So, that’s about 28-30% of the electorate.
The Progressives should be able to garner that % of voters with their policy and platform. Let the Uniparty and the Republican die-hards split the rest of it up. Without realignment of the electorate, the DINOs and RINOs will just take the money and accomplish nothing but the wishes of their donors.


#20

I don’t see them sufferin all that much. Uncle is buyin new toys all the time.