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The Taliban Surrendered in 2001

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#25

So while we are again rightfully condemning Bush, let us not forget the role VP Cheney played in this debacle. Shortly after Bush took office, Cheney held a confab in the old Executive Office Building with the major oil companies. While Cheney refused to reveal what was discussed, I was and remain convinced that it in that meeting that the invasion of Iraq was planned.
Regarding the necessity to maintain an enemy, I seem to recall that at one point Bin Laden was trapped in a cave in a mountainous region of Afghanistan. The CIA commander on the ground asked for reinforcements in the form of Army Rangers to finish the job. He was denied. I remember thinking at the time that Bin Laden was the face of evil because of 9/11, and if he was killed or captured our reason for being there would evaporate. Bin Laden was allowed to escape.

Bush & Cheney remain free while Snowden and Assange remain marked men.

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#26

Right on. Just before covid, I was in a college class room, where up not one of the students knew that there was any opposition over Vietnam and about Shell oils’ role. Amazing how many people now all ready forgotten the 1st bogus/lie reason why went to the Middle East — 9/11. However, people who got sick from 9/11 still go without medical care.

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#27

Why is a nearly 30 years - war just now getting on the front pages of the news? Glad to see Common Dreams, after all these years, bring up the oil companies’ as the real reason behind support the troops. Because the oil companies own the troops.

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#28

It important to remember that the lies told around the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan were not outliers. This is how the US Government operates and IS operating. Keep that in mind when they claim a need to contain China or Russia or the need for an Africom or a US presence in South Korea and Japan.

They create all these frictions between nations based on lies and then use those lies to justify more Militarism and more fascism. The Democrats do it just as much as the Republicans.

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#29

The Criminally Insane Assassins couldn’t get Castro, so they did the next best thing…they took out JFK.

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#30

Don’t worry about what to do with our troops. Biden started bombing Somalia last month, just not publicized widely. Who is he bombing? The terrorists we trained maybe? Not again!

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#31

Disagree with the center of who is criticizing the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. The entire mainstream media is united in spinning our withdrawal as a disaster. And a lot of dissing Biden is in process–he didn’t consult Britain, he doesn’t know we have troops in Syria,…

Yes mainstream media does influence the way people think. It is all most people hear.

#32

ALL of that happened under the control of the DP. And it always will.

Third Party

#33

Why would we drop a single bomb in Afghanistan as we try to fly people out, and expect the Taliban to play nice?
Didn’t matter that the Taliban surrendered in 2001. We needed the continuation to invade Iraq.
We didn’t have to get Saddam or Bin Laden for that matter, in order to keep the bogus war footing we were to continue for the next twenty years.

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#34

The connections are there for us all to see if we are willing to look.
JFK---- Chicago union bosses-tied to Mafia-tied to C.I.A.-tied to Warren commission coverup.

Vietnam. Conspiracies galore from assassinations to secret war in Laos and Cambodia. False flag beginning. They didn’t tell us they had no intention of winning a shooting war, only a war of negotiation.

9-11 has so many ties it’s ridiculous to think it was set up by Saudi’s. And then the 9-11 commission coverup.

Afghanistan. Follow the stepping stones once again. Orchestrate 9-11 then move on to Iraq, then enrich the administrations money wonks.

Us baby boomers have lived a conspiracy run life span.
Kind of sucks to be an American.

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#35

Hi herb B;
Does Biden even know who is bombing what?
It seems that the military —since Bush and Cheney---- has been getting richer and more soul less every year. : (

#36

You’re right. He knows little about the world or even what goes on inside his own office. Has real trouble when he tries to adlib.
But I would expand my request to his handlers.

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#37

Here is one more expert historian ignoring the fact that Pakistan is the taliban.
Provides supplies, paki officers leading the afghan cannon fodder and providing 15,000 replacements when we kill 5,000.

The good news is that this is drive bye news and forgotten when the Cleveland Browns are 6-0. Americans have not cared about afghan for 12 years.

#38

Maybe I should have been more specific. I see that as pretty synonymous with what I wrote, but I suppose not everyone does.

#39

Yeah but the Progressives and Democratic hoiploi seem to go after the Clintons more than Bush and the GOP. There will never be accountability for the GOP as long as the “Left” isn’t united.

#40

Could you provide some sources related to the Taliban/Saddam Hussein surrenders? The article doesn’t provide any

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#41

Obama just wanted to look forward. The day he said that regarding Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, I knew that his administration would be a disaster, not that I had any hope for him before he got elected…

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#43

We do, and have had for decades - but we don’t vote for them, having been told they “can’t win” or are “spoilers”

Frankly I am really tired of this “we have no choice” bit - our real problem is we have no guts …

#44

That’s just one of the reasons why we are stuck with one party, and its two right wings.

#45

Bush ( the Dim Son) and Cheney could make a movie called: DUMB AND DUMBER and it would be better than the original.