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The Truth about Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Originally published at http://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/06/10/truth-about-hiroshima-and-nagasaki

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A simple fact. Japan had lost all capacity to fight. Fuel oil was so low that they sent out there last naval vessels with tanks only partially filled with bunker oil because they did not have enough to go around and realized these mission would be one way missions. Aircraft were being piloted by rookie pilots who could barely get the planes into the air due to lack of training. There could be no training missions because they had no fuel for training. All of the veteran pilots were dead . This is why the “Great Marianas Island Turkey shoot” occurred. The Kamikaze attack was only effective for a short period of time.

The USSR absolutely demolished the Japanese armies in China and Manchuria. They destroyed a million man army at the cost of 12000 KIA and 24000 wounded. The Japanese had no armor, no anti-tank weapons, no air force , minimal artillery and most troops were raw conscripts.

There is no way the invasion of the Japanese homeland would have resulted in millions of Allied Casualties. That was made up nonsense. They did not have 1 million plus casualties against Germany and Germany had tanks , aircraft anti-tank weapons and the like. The Russians had more casualties attacking Berlin then they did destroying that million man army in China .

Against Japan the USSR had a 1.5 to one manpower advantage and had 36000 KIA and wounded combined.

Taking Berlin they had an almost 4-1 manpower advantage and suffered 360000 total KIA and wounded.

Japan could no longer fight.

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History, and the excuses for crimes against humanity, are written by the victors. So defeated Germans were hung at Nuremberg, while victorious Americans continue to be considered as heroes, whether it’s nuclear attacks in Japan or attacks on civilian wedding parties in Afghanistan. Or giving Congressional Medals of Honor to cavalry who were wounded by friendly fire at Wounded Knee as they massacred defenseless women and children.
It’s time for American Innocence to come to an end. I hope our reaction to the cold-blooded murder of George Floyd will lead to that. And, no, it’s not “revisionist history”, the usual comeback by conservatives.

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" Some gave all, I just nodded my head and snapped my fingers. "
President " Harry " Truman
Political calculations and historical records, are written by the victors, seeking re-election. {snark}

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There was no need to drop these bombs , Japan was in the process of surrendering.
Were they not a revenge for Peril ? And why drop the second on Nagasaki .

To teach the proper History of this event give the students both sides of the story ,get them to critically analyse and make up their own minds .
Do not say …this is the way it was !!!

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seems like a fair review of the Wallace program that largely whitewashed the American nuclear bombing, just what Americans prefer to hear. Also, I always heard that another reason for Truman’s decision to A-bomb was to end the war before the Soviets could advance much and claim more territory or control, he was already looking ahead to the Cold War.
That said, nobody could be too sure what would have happened if the US actually invaded Japan, people can fight fiercely for their won territory. And Japan too tried to minimize the bad things they did during the war, especially to Korea and China.

Both cities were Catholic.
Neither were military.
Our navy had the isles surrounded.
445 of our submarines killed every merchant ship floating in the area.
Japanese had no fuel or food.
We had fire bombed Tokyo earlier and it is estimated the fire storm killed 2 million folks.

There was a delay in surrender negotiations due to a mis-translation of one word.

The japanese had begun negotiating for a peace in April, 1945 thru Stalin, who refused to meet the prince from Japan. He did gain an isle north and they still have it.

Happy that CD has this other side of the story.
Heck, do we expect Fox to delve into a subject for objectivity??

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What I’ve read indicates that, after those two nuclear bombs, no more were expected to be ready any time soon.

It is usually accepted that using the bombs probably shortened the war even if only by a few weeks and in the grim reality of war the life of a single comrade saved is worth a thousand enemy slain. Yet “bringing our boys back as soon as possible”, was not actually the first order of business.

The fact that two bombs were dropped, however – without warning – on specifically targeted and crowded locations which had been spared aerial bombardment; the fact that each bomb had different technology (one uranium-explosion; one plutonium-implosion), each with different yields, dropped at different heights but both resulting in prolonged and deadly after-effects of which little was understood, suggests the conclusion that the primary motives might have been the seldom mentioned (almost unmentionable) one of “scientific” experimentation. The answer is provided by the proposals of the Target Committee, 27 April 1945:
“To enable us to assess accurately the effects of the bomb, the targets should not have been previously damaged by air raids…so that we could more definitely determine the power of the bomb”

The fact that two bombs were dropped – without warning – on specifically targeted and crowded locations which had been spared aerial bombardment; the fact that each bomb had different technology (one uranium-explosion; one plutonium-implosion), each with different yields, dropped at different heights but both resulting in prolonged and deadly after-effects of which little was understood, suggests the conclusion that the primary motives might have been the almost unmentionable)one of “scientific” experimentation.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen as targets because of their concentration of activities and population ideal for the experiment.

But not us forget the other atrocities committed such as the air raid on Tokyo of 9–10 March 1945 where 100,000 people are estimated to have died, a million were maimed and another million made homeless with almost 16 sq. miles of the city destroyed

American commander, Curtis LeMay, said, the US military “scorched and boiled and baked to death more people in Tokyo on that night than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined”.

The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki brought WWII to an end. It may have ended nearly as quickly without them. Washington dropped them to hasten victory: today the danger is an administration will use them to avoid defeat – by the thousands fold – because a pillar of deterrence doctrine is that the final option is used when all else fails. Avoiding that scenario is as relevant today, even more so, than during the Cold War. For more on this debate, search *never forget the *

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As some have mentioned here, the bombs were dropped primarily as a scientific test, so here we Americans enter the realm of the Nazi and Japanese medical war criminals, carrying out tests on humans, killing them. And one thing I have never heard anyone mention: if the bombs were dropped, as so many people lamely argue, in order to encourage surrender, why drop two of them, first of all, and why drop them on cities? Why not drop them safely offshore or in the countryside close to a strategic (actual) military location where their devastating power would be plain for the necessary military personnel to see? No, a show of power was not what it was about. It was a deliberate test to see how well our latest weapon would kill. And yet we run around pointing the finger at others, crying “terrorist!” and claiming innocence, bravery and righteousness.

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