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'This Scares Me,' Says Bill McKibben as Arctic Hits 100.4°F—Hottest Temperature on Record

You are correct. The GNP of the US is heavily dependent on the arms industry.

Here is my solution which would at least get us working on a plan rather than just sitting on our hands while the fossil fuel industry and its rich owners continues to fleece us.

My Energy Ideas:
Here are some ideas I have re climate change and how we can start a plan to hopefully begin real action to save ‘ourselves’ from what is certainly going to be a bleak future for our children. Thanks, Skip

I would like to see a platform, win or lose, that includes closing at least half of all overseas military bases and out posts along with a credible reduction of the MIC budget and that money spent on repairing our long neglected infrastructure and, secondly, using any remaining funds on a public healthcare for all plan. Next, a significant tax on all incomes of over (you set the amount) of in the neighborhood of 70+%, money to be used for social programs. And, most importantly, the Nationalization of all fossil fuel and uranium resources, profits from the sale of which would go directly towards renewable energy R & D; and, an additional tax on the profits from all energy producing industries which would go towards subsidizing the installation of renewable engery distribution and installation on homes and businesses. In addition there would be a progressive tax placed on all end users of fossil fuel produced energy, including personal and commercial transportation. The resources I mention belong to the people of our country and should be used to try and overcome the fast approaching climate disaster which will affect the entire world instead of further enriching already rich people; rich beyond the imaginations of most. A part of “our” platform must also include a wholehearted message that we will do our very best to include all climate scientists in a coordinated effort and scientific program to work on yet to be discovered ways to produce non-polluting energy. Climate is the world’s number one problem and endless wars are stealing our ability to come together as one people in order to save ourselves and all other life on Earth!
I hope this can somehow make it’s way to those in positions of leadership to assist in using in their own ideas.

Skip Edwards
590 Chipeta Dr
Ridgway, CO 81432
970-708-7277
skipedw@aol.com

End note: We must also put in that list a ‘progressive’ tax on all fossil fuel use by individuals, ie, heating homes, etc, transportation, ie, cars, boats, yachts, etc (fuel coupons rationed as in WWII and with below certain incomes receiving coupons similar to food stamps), etc. There are ways to do this where everyone will chip in and be a part of the effort. But this will require laws and a unified leadership. We don’t have time to try and vote in this type of change. We lost that time years ago when the warnings first started. We must force that change on the people in the government we have. Europeans are in the streets, kids are striking and walking out of schools; meanwhile, where are the American adults?

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Just had to show you this Brian:

~https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/23/godzilla-dust-cloud-from-sahara-blankets-caribbean-on-its-way-to-us

No worry. The rockets to another planet will be ready soon enough for the few thousand UHNWIs to be safely moved to their new homes.

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Thanks for your reply. What is so insidious to me is how global warming is accelerating in Alaska, especially true in Arctic, Alaska.

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The Enlightenment helped fuel the concept of Dominionism. It sort of like the steam engine. The concept of the steam engine dates way back further then the Industrial Revolution but it was the Industrial revolution that saw steam as power spread across the world.

The single largest issue I have with Western Science that grew out of the Enlightenment is that it too focused on breaking everything down looking for a singular cause and effect rather then understanding that things work holistically. It very much parallels the concept of individual human rights over collective rights. It the thing behind “private property rights” as opposed to the concept of “the Commons”.

For at least a decade now scientists have been constantly surprised and falling behind by how quickly change has been coming and accelerating at exponential rates. Combine that with an event like this, 100.4 F, it strongly suggests at least to me that a collapse is coming and humans will be totally caught off guard and miss it until after it’s already too late.

Also, fyi see MJ article: We Just Found the Most Terrifying GIF on the Internet

Shudder.

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Heres the future:
~https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/06/21/arctic-temperature-record-siberia/

Yes, it looks scary as hell! Siberia and Alaska share much of the Arctic circle. Thanks.

I think the most shocking statistic from this article is the fact that the temperatures we are currently seeing at the arctic were expected to not happen till 2100. Climate collapse isn’t just coming. It is already hear. I would say that humanity already has one foot in the grave but at this point I think all that is left is to fill the grave up with dirt.

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That is part of it We get 100F when Palm Springs and Phoenix hit around 110. But this is odd by nearly 10F.

And that was 3 years ago.

I reckon, but I can’t say. We sort of get the extreme edges of everyone else’s weather. But I haven’t seen a season I would have called normal here for a few years.

Some victims of these super tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, and other extraordinary recent weather events we’re experiencing would surely agree with you, but in terms of “collapse” I think there is still more unimaginable catastrophe to come. One only has to read about previous mass extinctions to understand that ‘we ain’t seen nothing yet.’

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Individual cuts won’t matter squat if the big agriculture and war machine continues polluting. We all as individuals could switch to green and their actions will still screw us. Of course our politicians and their corporate masters will make sure such changes never happen.

Indeed. I am just pointing out that it is foolish to thing that the hell that is coming is far of. We are currently experiencing the prelude to the upcoming chorus.

I don’t know. I haven’t figured McKibben out yet and tend not to place people on pedestals, so I just count him and Moore as parts of the ecosystem, as it were.

There is no real debate about this. There is what the climate scientists have been saying for the past 50 years, which is that human industry is destroying the balance of nature and the stability of the climate is now in collapse, just like they said it would. Deniers are all in the employ of companies causing the problem.

You mean the US. America is a continent or two, depending on reckoning and linguistic conventions. Two for anglophones; one for hispanophones, lusophones and francophones. And there is a huge country that is behaving even more badly than Trumpland: Brazil. There was also an extreme record high in a peninsula in northern Antarctica (the maps were very unclear but it looks as if it is the other end of a link between the ice continent and Tierra del Fuego at the southern tip of South America).

Sekhmet’s daughter, I’m Bastet’s daughter or perhaps her mum, as my familiar is a small totally black pussycat.

Sorry to generalize, throwing the more civilized Canadians onto the pyre. Because the word “America” is represented by the A in USA, many call it America, but your right, technically Americans in general are persons from the Americas.