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Threat of Trump Presidency Looms Over UN Climate Talks


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Threat of Trump Presidency Looms Over UN Climate Talks

Lauren McCauley, staff writer

Looming over the opening of the United Nations climate change conference on Monday is the question of whether a notorious climate change-denier will be elected to lead one of the most powerful, and most polluting, nations on the planet.

The 22nd Conference of the Parties to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), also known as COP22, kicked off in Marrakesh, Morrocco, one day before the U.S. presidential election between Republican Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.


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Vote for Hillary or else!

Meanwhile no one is talking about overpopulation and habitat overshoot.


#3

Voting Green in 16 is the only pro-environment vote available. The rest are feel good votes at best.


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"In sharper terms, Khalid Pitts, Sierra Club national political director, also offered how the international community would view a Trump presidency. "Electing a climate science conspiracy theorist like Trump would make America a global laughingstock and embarrassment, all while relinquishing our leadership role in the world," Pitts said."

Well, "our leadership" has paved the way for all manner of unprecedented local and global messes. Maybe it's about time for it to be relinquished to a saner bunch, which is likely going to be needed regardless of which Establishment candidate occupies the White House next January.


#6

Sure, However, the green groups would still not have any power even if elected.


#7

Ecological collapse, ocean acidification etc... etc...


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Why only Trump?

Have they not heard of Hillary's worldwide campaign to push more and more fracking on to the fragile environment?


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My headline:

THREAT OF ANY PRESIDENCY BUT JILL STEINS, LOOMS OVER CLIMATE TALKS.


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If Trump were elected it is hard to imagine any other outcome than climate catastrophe. When it comes to fighting climate change there are three countries that are particularly key, the US, China, and India. Each of these countries could undermine all efforts to fight climate change it they chose to. Ignorance and backwardness could triumph. There is no guarantee that rationality and intelligence will win. The upper range for global temperature this century is around 6C. But that doesn't take into account positive feedbacks. Even 8-9C may be possible. Even if the temperature goes beyond 4C is is unclear whether humans in many places will be able to adapt. Trump is a real threat to prospects for civilization in the future. Bernie Sanders is right. Trump must be stopped.


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No No No !

Were I an American, I would vote for Jill Stein.

But this is a false article - Trump is not the problem, never was. The entire electoral process is little more than farce - smoke and mirrors.

The problem is systemic, and infects the entire Western Way, i.e., all of the modern so-called democracies.

I have ordered Alexis de Touqueville's "Democracy in America" from the library.

No one, not even Jill Stein, were she to be miraculously elected President, is going to turn things around any time soon.

So I will continue to blog here, meet a few like-minded individuals, and continue to investigate human nature, both savage and civilized, in an attempt to understand - before all hell breaks loose and we are consumed with simply surviving day to day.

Right now the standoff in North Dakota seems infinitely more worthy of my time than this faux-election.


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These are frighting times to be sure and he is a frightening candidate but we have had eight years of a democratic (ha ha) presidency and look how fare we haven't come. The US is still behind other nations and reluctant to sign the agreements that would help. Don't try to scare me with Trump when HRC wants the TPP, fracking and Oil and Gas drilling everywhere. What's the diff.?
The world is already laughing at us for this joke of an election.


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Vote Hillary and have a slight chance to save the planet or vote Trump and enjoy the time we have on the Titanic.


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Whoever is elected has power. Veto power, power of appointment, not to mention commander in chief and the power of the pulpit.


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There are too many threats looming over the UN climate talks to even address in one post. At the top of the list is the arctic death spiral.

I am so f-----g sick of the Trump focus----Trump and his followers are the symptom of the problems related to imperialism, capitalism, racism which are the foundations of the u.s.

Speaking of capitalism---

Three cheers for capitalism in tandem with oiligarchy that will rapaciously churn on with an HRC victory:

The markets are surging today!!
β€œOil prices are ticking up” due to signs that Clinton will win---- boosting trader’s confidence in oil shares----yippee!

It is a most depressing time on so many levels. One can hope that Stein secures 5 % of the vote. Yet that will be way too little, too late. And it seems pathetic.

Wondering what others will be doing to cope during the next 48 hours knowing that even after the "results" are in we have so many struggles ahead. These are struggles and challenges (to put it mildly) that surpass anything humanity has ever faced before.

My heart breaks for all life on earth.


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Relax... The powers that really be will never allow Trump to win. Hilary is our next President. Now, think to the future and start strengthening the Green Party.


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While I'm confidant that Hillary will be our next President, I am dismayed with posts like yours that say the powers that be will not allow... If enough fools vote for Trump then them Powers that BE won't have a damn thing to do with it.


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There a climate disaster now , as we speak, and this without Trump in power and with A president in the USA that is A Democrat.

To suggest another Democrat, one even more committed to fracking would head off this disaster is lunacy.

Vote Green. They are a political party that has as its founding principle the protection of the environment.

Voting Hilary does nothing in this regard just as voting Liberal here in Canada made no difference.


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Thanks for the explanation of some of the effects of a Trump win.
However, I voted (in a swing state) for Jill Stein. In any case, while Trump might actively set the global climate talks back, I think these are becoming rapidly moot. We can't have an "all of the above", pro-Natural gas, pro-oceanic drilling, pro-fracking policy and expect to meet even the least helpful goals.

In my view, only serious, massive and sustained public action, especially in the economic powers, will change the outcome for the better.
We'll know soon enough, however, whether our opponent will be Democrat or Republican.


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I feel your pain. It is incessant. But we must do what we can to try to change the paradigm that has put so much of earth's current inhabitants at risk.

The market responses speak volumes. Too bad all the Clinton enablers fail to understand why, and the meaning of such things.