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Trump Is a Dangerous Idiot. So Why Are We Pushing Him Toward War?


There may be a crack in the solid Democratic Russian hysteria. I still can’t find much about this letter dated March 8, 2018.

“In a sad commentary on the parlous state of the U.S. media, a letter to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson from four United States Senators dated March 8 calling for opening arms control talks with the Kremlin ASAP is nowhere to be found in mainstream newspapers a day after its release on the Senate home page of one of the authors.”…Ray McGovern, Gilbert Doctorow


Well, another invertebrate crawls out of its swamp to stretch its tentacles.

Says the invertebrate: “ “socialist” regimes have murdered over 100,000,000 of their citizens in the last century.”

Name just one ‘socialist’ regime. In fact, name any ‘socialist’ government. And do keep in mind, assuming you have one, that ‘socialist’ governments aren’t centralized. You know, like all the other governments on the planet. Your ‘Human Progress’ Dick and Jane site probably didn’t mention that, despite indulging in plenty of old Cold War cliches. “Free economy’, if not free citizens, ‘Cato’ used as a reliable propaganda source, the ‘failure of socialism’ mantra, can’t be a good Hayek groupie without it, the obligatory quackery to privatize Social Security. And the oblivious…“ In 1975, Venezuelans lived longer than Chileans.” Perhaps you overlooked something. Maybe this will help you recall a little history.

From the National Security Archives: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB470/

A sampling:

Covert U.S. planning to block the democratic election of Salvador Allende in Chile began weeks before his September 4, 1970, victory, according to just declassified minutes of an August 19, 1970, meeting of the high-level interagency committee known as the Special Review Group, chaired by National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger. “Kissinger asked that the plan be as precise as possible and include what orders would be given September 5, to whom, and in what way,” as the summary recorded Kissinger’s instructions to CIA Director Richard Helms. “Kissinger said we should present to the President an action plan to prevent [the Chilean Congress from ratifying] an Allende victory…and noted that the President may decide to move even if we do not recommend it.”

“The document is one of a compendium of some 366 records released by the State Department as part of its Foreign Relations of the United States (FRUS) series. The much-delayed collection, titled “Chile: 1969-1973,” addresses Richard Nixon’s and Kissinger’s efforts to destabilize the democratically elected Socialist government of Salvador Allende, and the U.S.-supported coup that brought General Augusto Pinochet to power in 1973. The controversial volume was edited by two former officials of the State Department’s Office of the Historian, James Siekmeier and James McElveen.”

From the North American Congress of Latin American: “The Atrocities of Augusto Pinochet and the United States.”

Then there’s the 2002 coup against Hugo Chavez. A few reminders:

Take your time. Unlike your Dick and Jane smack site, these articles use actual verbs.


Oblivious to Taibbi’s eloquence in articulating well-founded concern about the nuclear threat - given the little problem of having a psychotic infant in office - the straw-man implication that Taibbi is somehow naive about “Russian bots,” threadbare as hell, is again waved around, just to keep beating the drum. This is what a running-dog warbot sounds like.


When the only thing driving politics is competition and one-upmanship, the planet reels from one blitheringly idiotic manufactured crisis to another in a seemingly unending spiral toward the bottom. I don’t get it. At what point are we going to grow up already. I can’t take any of this BS seriously, it’s all so–middle school. In a deadly, vicious way.


Wait…what? A country calling itself the National Socialist German Workers’ Party wasn’t socialist? Hmmm

The private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

De facto government ownership of the means of production was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State. If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State.

But what specifically established de facto socialism in Nazi Germany was the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936. These were imposed in response to the inflation of the money supply carried out by the regime from the time of its coming to power in early 1933. The Nazi regime inflated the money supply as the means of financing the vast increase in government spending required by its programs of public works, subsidies, and rearmament. The price and wage controls were imposed in response to the rise in prices that began to result from the inflation.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

Of course on the murder of it’s citizens(unarmed) chart of socialist regimes, Nazi Germany were pikers compared to those socialists in the USSR(hey there’s that “socialist” give away in their name again!) and Red China.

Yeah I know, this time you’ll do it right just like in current Venezuela…oops.

History, the one subject REgressives must have all skipped.


Et tu Brute’? You LIVED in Russia in the distant past – whether Putin is a weakling or a mobster should be beside the point from your perspective; the mere fact that you are alive to insult him makes VLAD PUTIN a being to RESPECT ----- your mere PRESENCE is proof he isn’t as bad as our orangutard is!


I didn’t even bother to reply to the numerous factual errors and twisted spins throughout his rant. You can knock down every single one of his arguments - and he’ll still insist on arguing.

But thanks for pointing out that one.

The notion that Pinochet did anything good for Chile would be laughable were it not so painfully wrong. And, to point out the obvious, the horrors visited on Chile were directly attributable to the US’ “Operatoin Condor” - yet another example of predatory capitalism’s endless wars to sustain itself.


Agreed. I always admired Allende and the way he won the Presidency through democratic means - despite the U.S. spending millions against him in the three elections leading up to his victory. He was the one who introduced the national health insurance program I mentioned above that became law in the 1950’s and resulted in the big decline in infant mortality in the country. He fought hard for the people with innovative programs despite the interference by Anaconda Copper and ITT and the U.S. government’s manipulation of the copper market. Pinochet, on the other hand, gave the Chilean people a healthy dose of torture, imprisonments, murders, and denial of human rights to go with the economic inequality applauded by the right (all while skimming off a good size fortune for himself).


Frankly I should have described Taibbi’s opinion piece as dangerously deceptive and incoherent. Naive implies stupidity or narrow sighted even shallow mind. He is neither , he is quite sharp bitter and sarcastic opinionator who is preaching to a quire (yourself ). I used to be in his quire before , not on this topic.

Taibbi is talking about whole range of topics regions and conflicts without clear focus or goal besides “oh my what if lunatic Trump presses the button”- scare tactic, what he does not talk about is the real attack on US democratic process . The gashing cyber hole is open and no one is doing anything about it. What is more dangerous is for Taibbi to say - never mind it.


Don’t forget transforming natural childhood curiosity to be formally educated privatized to debt slavery by birth to a fookahn commoner!


Yes, and one hundred million was also the figure given by the economist Amartya Sen regarding the unnecessary deaths in capitalist India, a figure, said the Nobel Prize economist, that was more than the combined unnecessary deaths of all the communist countries. Even then, post-independence India was much more progressive than during the times of the British Raj. Together with the over 29 famines that stalked that unfortunate land, the intermittent British wars against Indians who merely wanted to rule their own country were responsible for around 1.8 billion deaths (some idea of which could be gleaned from Amaresh Misra’s book: War of Civilizations, India AD 1957). And we’re not even counting the hundreds of millions of African deaths at hands of European capitalist imperialists - during the 19th century it was considered fashionable for the European ruling class to decorate their homes with African skulls. God knows how many negroes had died escaping from European/American slave hunters, and how many captured ones perished during the trans-Atlantic journeys to the New World. Not to mentioned those who were killed at will as slaves to their slave-masters.

And all those deaths don’t include events like the Irish Potato famine, the world wars started by capitalist states, etc, etc.

In the hunt for profits at all costs, mankind have become the most evil of all creatures. That’s surely not something inevitable, and something that could be cured with a more sharing attitude, a more socially-minded civilisation, a socialist society.


Perhaps it’s Matt’s way to ease some possible pressure on him for his excellent article “As Trump Demands ‘Credit,’ South Korea Praised for ‘Masterful’ Diplomacy.”

Frankly, for some time I’ve had the gnawing suspicion that the Deep State was attacking Trump in order to force him to go to war, whether against Korea (unlikely), Russia (more likely), and China (most likely because that country believes in nuclear deterrence, not MAD and hence doesn’t have as many weapons in their stockpile). Should the Deep State succeed in frightening any nation to surrender or dissolve altogether, it would eventually take credit (its minions would announce it like they did over the breakup of the Soviet Union, even though that event was more an internal matter than a US "victory ") for the occurrence. Should the bluff ended up with a disastrous nuclear war, however, all responsibility could be thrown at Trump - that mad man, that idiot, that rapist, etc., etc.


(some idea of which could be gleaned from Amaresh Misra’s book: War of Civilizations, India AD 1957"

Sorry: should be 1857.


Again attributing stuff to Taibbi he never said or even implied. Your dishonesty stinks to high heaven, dog.


If you like calling names people I suggest starting with Putin and dear Kim John Un.


Excellent point, MMinLamesa!!! Capitalism also succeeds by brutal repression of domestic opponents and genocide of indigenous populations. Even the US mainstream media puts the murder rate of your example capitalism success at over 40,000.

The genocide of Mapuche did not start under Pinochet, but he sure took pleasure in accelerating it. Pinochet’s legacy of genocide continues to this day: https://intercontinentalcry.org/chiles-still-using-pinochets-anti-terrorist-law-mapuche/


You go, Matt, keep dragging the shit out into the open, especially from “thinkfluencers” (love that). Yeah, even if it means that, naturally, the bot flies will show up to feed!

And J-zuss, CD, WTF has happened to this site? I get that anyone deserves a whiff or two but you may have to torch it and start over to get rid of the dominant stench.


My dad said there is no such thing as a necessary war.


I can tell you don’t want to hear viewpoint contrary to your own, Lamesa. I’m not falling for your copy/paste dogmatic demagoguery. Rampant German inflation occurred in the early 1920’s, giving rise to Hitler and his Brownshirt ex-army regulars who blamed their troubles on Jews, liberals, government. Labor union communist trouble began later when German automakers (1930 or so) began mass production technique influenced by the Big 3 US automakers, GM, Chrysler, Ford who probably knew would be applied to armament manufacture. The adage ‘follow the money’ accurately reveals whom is most culpable for the world’s ills. Fascism is defined as big business control of government, not government control of big business. You come off as a rightwing rabble rouser like most sh*theads like Limbaugh (Jobba the Hut of talk radio) and his greasy ilk. I’m Scotch/Irish but I like Hispanic immigration because their lineage is closer to the original inhabitants of North America. I hope they will one day replace all White Trash racist warmonger immigrant descendants here.


Sting says:

“There’s no such thing as a winnable war,
It’s a lie we don’t believe anymore.”
-“Russians” (1985)