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US Pushes Russia Towards War

Margaret Kimberley

This columnist recently said that “Russia Wins” in its handling of America’s attempt to eviscerate its influence and its economy. At the time those words were written Secretary of State John Kerry met with Vladimir Putin in Sochi, Russia. The meeting appeared to be an admission that the imperial power grab was not working out as Washington hoped. Among other things, Kerry was concerned that the Ukrainian tail was starting to wag the American dog.


#2

From the article:

"The United States has intervened in too many countries without paying a high enough price. It is like a serial criminal who remains at large and thus thinks of himself as invincible. This county is responsible for carnage in Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti, Somalia, Yemen, and Syria and that is the list of victims only since 2001."

I think at this point in this nation's evolution--given the obvious control of government processes by special interest groups (and these include organized crime families, CIA/NSA/Deep State, MIC, banking cartels, and criminally negligent corporations of many sorts starting with Monsanto and the barons of fossil fuel energies), it's wise to not say that it is the "United States" that is behind the brutal and planned "serial killer" style attacks on numerous sovereign lands.

One must go back to the Nazi infiltration of our own nation and what its deep state apparatus has meant to government and the alleged SAY of citizens.

The fact that the mainstream media acts as a propagandistic tool of military invasions explains why lies are still being told often and believed by SOME.

The people driving these criminally insane policies have ZERO creativity; and that's why their modus operandi repeats itself.

Now Putin is Saddam Hussein. And in the same sickening way that phony "evidence" was used to insist that Saddam was guilty of all sorts of sins--and NONE of this "evidence" proved true, again, the same individuals who pushed the fake war ("case being FIXED FOR WAR") agenda as used against Iraq are repeating the same steps in setting up PUTIN.

Yesterday on Democracy Now, it was mentioned that all sorts of tanks and artillery are being moved into Slovakia, Poland, and other former Russian satellite nations. The cover is that all this military might is being put into place for "practice." Reminds one of Vietnam and all those "advisors" flown over.

The bastards are provoking Russia, using an economic stronghold to take it to its knees, violating the agreement to keep NATO's weapons further away, and painting Putting as the aggressor while all these AGGRESSIVE actions are underway.

The Corporately captured media is the real problem.

Just as Smedley Butler and John Perkins explained, it's military might that allows for U.S (now global) corporations to exploit resources (including human labor) in diverse foreign lands. That means the military hierarchy is in bed with the corporate hierarchy, and when govt. is under thrall to both, that's fascism.

I posted this link yesterday: it's well worth viewing since it explains how our nation fell into the hands of those with Nazi-style sentiments: HINT: They love war and they have zero respect for, or compassion towards human beings other than their own small ilk of ideological like-minded sociopaths.


#3

I don't recall which pundit pointed out that the fall of the former Soviet Union could have resulted in a world where peace and humane relations among nations flourished.

Of course THAT outcome would have meant that there was not an already fully-functioning Military-Industrial-Complex, itself a hybridized version of all those Nazi scientists/psychologists/soldiers covertly invited into the dark Pentagon basements after W.W. II. And that outcome would have meant that martial domination, so favored by military devotees everywhere, would have been quelled and magically morphed into peacebuilding enterprises.

Unfortunately, all that martial force continued to build up like an underground volcano and now it has the force power to explode.

Few Americans know the extent of Project Paperclip. Fewer understand the dark influence of American filial dynasties, the Bush Junta, in particular. And that's why terror--in the face of what these plunderers are planning--is not apparent. Ultimately, as only a black magician's mind could conjure, the ENTIRE "War on Terror" has mostly served as a pretext for targeting radicals, dissidents, and any who oppose what dangerous, lawless sociopaths allege to do in our names.

EVERY totalitarian regime has sought to get rid of any who dare to posit alternatives or expose its unjust acts. Note how Pinochet sliced the fingers off the nation's chief poet-minstrel, or how the Nazis burned books, or how the old Soviets locked up radical thinkers.

The coup occupants in power have planned these wars for decades and had to let the pieces gradually come into place. Of course it was a particular false flag that lit the trigger and served as basis for speeding things up.

A controlled media: check
Control of the courts (the vast majority of them): check
Tremendous funding (from the public which itself, is struggling!) for the MIC: check
Use of a false flag event to curb Civil Liberties: check
Use of same to lock-in complete media compliance with official narratives: check
Piss poor economy perfect for supplying human resources to the military: check
Criminalizing truth tellers and whistle blowers: check
Pervasive surveillance: check
Appearance that Democracy is still functioning via elections: check
Majority of congress "owned": check

There are other critical components, but the above list captures most of the key ones.

There are also unseen forces that these warriors cannot control, and they work with human beings who truly serve The Greater Good.

Meanwhile, the bastards at the wheel want their New World Order and total control of this planet. They will use the 65 million Christians' belief in End Times/ Armageddon to 'bring it on.'

I am hoping for Divine Intervention.


#4

Don't forget the Japanese "scientist" who was the world leader in biological warfare and his crimes against humanity; we let him go free so he could share all that he had learned with our government after WWII.


#5

An immediate solution would be to march on congress and the white house and escort Obama and our congress critters out and replace them. They have done the exact opposite of everything millions of Americans have told them they want. They are good for little but sure know how to start wars and kill.


#6

"The process of marginalizing Russia began as soon as the Soviet Union collapsed. While the Warsaw Pact disbanded, NATO grew at Russia's expense". The only question is whether these opinions indicate willful ignorance or outright delusion. Or, put another way, what a load of...
NATO was formed in 1948 in response to the Soviet refusal to disgorge those nations it had either annexed or occupied during and after WWll. The Soviets responded in 1953 by forming the Warsaw Pact, which included its occupied satellite nations: Hungary, Czechoslavakia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, and (East) Germany.
Fast-forward to 1991, when the "prison of nations"- the USSR- collapsed. All of the nations named above, plus those nations which had been illegally annexed and occupied by the Soviets for 50 years- Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania- all reclaimed their sovereignty. As did Ukraine, and even Russia itself.
In subsequent years, all of the former Warsaw Pact nations, and the Baltic States, actively sought out NATO membership, to ensure that they never again became Russian vassal states.
Russia needs no assistance in marginalizing itself with the West. Since the rise of the Bolsheviks almost a century ago, to the genocide of its own population (Stalin's "TheGreat Terror") to its enabling of Hitler (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), to decades of Cold War, it has attained its current pariah status all by itself.
Well, not entirely all by itself. Absent any sort of foundation in representative democracy, it has allowed the ex-KGB apparatchik Vladimir Putin and his oligarchic cronies to co-opt any possibility of Russia actually moving past its apparently innate inability to actually form one.
Ukraine, for reasons similar to Russia, has had problems moving on from the Soviet era. Small wonder that Putin decided to undermine its efforts to do so. Everyone else had had the foresight to join NATO. And after all, it's not like the Russians haven't had lots of experience with destroying that nation (Holodomor).
There is no question that American neocons have over-reached since the collapse of the USSR- much like the Soviets did for their entire existence. But painting the US as the default aggressor in every geopolitical dispute is dishonest and dangerous. There is a reason that all of Eastern Europe has embraced NATO. That reason is Russia, and its history with its Eastern European neighbors.
In Eastern Europe, NATO is not the danger. NATO is what keeps the danger away.


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A typical interview makes the rounds on the internet that comes out of Germany.

It in German and has a a few ministers and Generals sitting at a table. The ministers indicate that the Cold war over and Russia is not faced with aggressive armies on its borders. He claims that Russian announcements that it will upgrade and modernize its Nuclear arsenal are unwarranted and an act of needless aggression.

He is asked by a reporter about the US Nuclear weapons based in Germany and other NATO nations and the fact the US adds to this arsenal and upgrades them as well and this started before Russia did the same.

You should see that giuy squirm. He claimed it not the same because the US upgrades only to make the arsenal more secure. When pressed on this point with a reporter asking "do you mean to say the US Nuclear weapons are not secure" the guy fidgets and squirms and than says that the US must upgrade for technical reasons as many weapons become obsolete.

He is than asked "are you saying Russia upgrades for geopolitical reasons and all of the reasons for the US doing the same are technical" You should see the guys discomfort. It then suggested that perhaps the Americans should be asked to remove their Nuclear weapons in Germany (as in this might be followed by Russia doing the same)
The guy stammers out words to the effect of he is not there to talk about the US Nuclear arsenal.

What the poster above leaves out of his take on history is the nations of Hungary , Germany , Romania and Bulgaria all colluded to attack the USSR. What he leaves out is the role of US monied interest financing the Nazi's so as to wage that war. What he leaves out was that in three short years of fascism in Hungary that government murdered 500000 of its own people a number that dwarfed the numbers claimed to have been killed by the USSR in 40 years of occupation of ALL those ex Axis nations totalled together.

The USSR stopped those mass murders which were also to happen in Poland and those other East European nations.

What he leaves out is the USA claims the right to keep its armies in Japan and South Korea And Germany and Italy and claimed that right after those wars premised on the fact that those nations were aggressor nations and the occupation needed to ensure fascists never came to power there again.

Well the Russians left and now the fascists are returning to both East Europe and the West including the police State of the United States of America. They proudly wave swastikas in the Ukraine even as the USA once more finances them.

The hypocrisy of that German minister above is mind boggling but par for the course for a so called "peace loving" West Europe and NATO which is launching wars against peoples the world over.

In its history there is some number less than 20 of nations on this Earth the the British Empire did not at one time attack.

The country in second place is not Russia whose history goes back some thousand years , or China which has a history dating back thousands of years more.It is the hyper aggressive United States of America whose leaders sing songs like bomb bomb Iran and has only existed a few hundred years , birthed out of the genocide of the First Nations peoples.

Russia has every reason to be concerned. The last time they fought the fascists they lost 25 million people.


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Did anyone out there get their "Peace Dividend?
Cold War scam Politics were nothing shot of A perpetual Lie- Here we go again....


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Whew Suspira, I have to disagree, and there is a lot to correct in my mind. So, I numbered them in no particular order...

  1. Bulgaria never was at war with the Soviet Union in World War 2.

  2. The Hungarians were ruled by fascist scumbag "Admiral Horthy" but did not slaughter their own people. They actually protected the jewish citizens until occupied by Germany in March 1943, The germans, along with the native fascist fringe group Arrow Cross then rounded up 500,000 jews and shipped them off to Aushwitz.

  3. The Russians did stop the exterminations in Poland, but that was not an objective of theirs. Just as liberating Dachau was not an objective of the U.S. Army. Just a happy benefit of passing through territory to attack the Reich.

  4. The Romanians attacked Russia for two reasons. To get back the 1/3 of the country that the Soviet Union grabbed from them in 1940 with troops, and because Hitler ordered them too under threat of occupation. They switched sides to the russians in 1944.

  5. The Soviet troops didnt "leave" after the war. They stayed for another 40 years to crush any independence shown by their satellites..East Germany 1953, Hungary 1956, Czechoslavakia 1968, Poland 1970, Poland 1981..ect.

  6. The US did not "fund" the Nazi's. Hitler didnt need or want funding from the "decadent jewish democracies" nor did he need it. He simply slapped wage and price controls on the country, nationalized the banks and much of heavy industry, and paid for it with "mocher" notes (govt iou) dreamed up by his finance minister Schacht before the war, and massive looting of occupied countries and slave labor from same during the war.

  7. In addition to the countries seized fully or partly by the Soviet Union, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Finland, Romania, Afghanistan, Manchuria, Mongolia, Japan,..ect The Russian empire before that started as a France sized area "Duchy of Moscovy" at the time of the reign of Ivan the Terrible and expanded to the largest Empire on earth by the end of the reign of Catherine the Great. Too many countries to list, in addition to subjugating and by and large exterminating the indigineous population from the Urals to the Pacific. So, yeah, I think they have the US beat all to hell on conquests.

  8. That "Nazis" rule the Ukraine now is a gross exageration. A few fringe groups and idiots threw in with the revolution, but dont run the country. As for the guy that ran away, only 4.7% of Ukranians favor his return according to the most recent Pew poll. I doubt he has any plans to do so, as he is now a Russian citizen.

Thanks


#10

Your first two paragraphs - no problem. After that your post just pedals the spin that we have already been inundated with oon the corporate media.

Was it Putin who bosted about spending 5 billion in overthrowing the democratically elected Ukraine government. No it was Nuland. The USA is definitely the aggressor in this case.

That is because they genuflect to the might of the US empire, that spends more money on its military than the rest of the world combined and girdles the world with 900 military bases.

NATO is just the USA and all of the puppet states of the USA empire. The continued aggression and annexation of Russia, breaking its obligations, and is pushing the world toward nuclear war.


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You're insane. By the way, the amount of military hardware we moved into eastern Europe recently means dick. The Russians know that these are symbolic deployments, just like the Europeans do. Only people here think that a few artillery pieces and a handful of fighters and bombers amounts to a serious military buildup. Get real and stop it with the conspiracy theory nonsense. This is how great powers act, this is how they've always acted, get used to it.


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Hitler's economic miracle did not happen on its own. The USA may not have funded the Nazis, but its rich elite did, partially through the Bank of International Settlements. And throughout the second world war, when the USA was supposedly fighting against Germany, they continued to supply parts and fuel for Hitler's war machine.


#13

The Obama administration has vehemently denied charges that Ukraine's nascent regime is stock full of neo-fascists despite clear evidence suggesting otherwise. Before the propaganda white out of Ukranian news, Svobda's antisemitism was already widely reported. Germany had another group of people in mind to rule the Ukraine, but it was Nuland who had her way with her revolution, placing Yats and the Ukrainian Nazi party into power in the Ukraine.


#14

C.D. most of us I'm pretty sure would greatly appreciate you to post Professor Cohen's articles on the
the possible coming war with Russia. I linked his latest article. Please listen to the hour long audio interview. To get the full effect of what these evil bastards are up too.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/210809/stephen-cohen-new-cold-war-escalates-toward-hot-war


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The US did not "fund" the Nazi's. Hitler didnt need or want funding from the "decadent jewish democracies" nor did he need it. He simply slapped wage and price controls on the country, nationalized the banks and much of heavy industry, and paid for it with "mocher" notes (govt iou) dreamed up by his finance minister Schacht before the war, and massive looting of occupied countries and slave labor from same during the war.

Wrong. See the video above of the role of Harriman and the Bush clan . Review the role played by IBM and Ford. See the role played by Union banking owned by Harriamn/bush who worked in Collusion with one fritz Thyssen to finance the Nazis . One of your own Presidents said "The Business of America is Business" and US Corporations were very friendly with the Nazis which prompted those bussinessmen to back a coup in the USA to put in place the same system.

The Soviet troops didnt "leave" after the war. They stayed for another 40 years to crush any independence shown by their satellites..East Germany 1953, Hungary 1956, Czechoslavakia 1968, Poland 1970, Poland 1981..ect.

The United States did not "leave" after the War. The Russians did. NATO was formed in 1948. The USA claimed that the reason Germany was parceled up and occupied because it was the aggressor in WW2. Why was it ok for the USA to remain in Europe with one of its generals calling on the President to attack Russia while the Soviets had to pull out.
One more time the Soviets lost 25 million to Germany and the allies.

Meanwhile the USA worked to crush independence movements in Latin America, Central America, Indonesia , Iran, Greece and countries too limited ot mention, countries not even on its borders and countries that had never attacked the USA.

Bulgaria never was at war with the Soviet Union in World War 2.

Bulgaria was a full member of the Axis nations. They joined in the occupation of Grrece and macedonia. While they did not declare war on Russia their territores used as a conduit for troops and they declared war on the United Kingdom. France and the Netherlands did not declare war on the USA either. Should the USA have went around them on their invasion?

The Hungarians were ruled by fascist scumbag "Admiral Horthy" but did not slaughter their own people. They actually protected the jewish citizens until occupied by Germany in March 1943, The germans, along with the native fascist fringe group Arrow Cross then rounded up 500,000 jews and shipped them off to Aushwitz.

Wow this is called SPIN. It "really was not Hungary it was Germany". See Vichy France as an example. East Europe post War was also occupied by persons friendly to the USSR such as East Germany whose Governments were more then happy to suppress their own.

in Korea and in Vietnam the GOvernmenets of South Korea and South Vietnam both committed atrocities against the people. I guess THAT does not count.

That "Nazis" rule the Ukraine now is a gross exageration. A few fringe groups and idiots threw in with the revolution, but dont run the country. As for the guy that ran away, only 4.7% of Ukranians favor his return according to the most recent Pew poll. I doubt he has any plans to do so, as he is now a Russian citizen.

A fascist is a fascist. Fascism is a system of Governance. It is not a nationality.

The Russians did stop the exterminations in Poland, but that was not an objective of theirs. Just as liberating Dachau was not an objective of the U.S. Army. Just a happy benefit of passing through territory to attack the Reich.

Immaterial to the point made, that being had Russia not removed the Facists from Poland the Poles would have met that fate as would have all of the Slavic populations of East Europe . That was the master plan of "the master race' that same country whom you claimed was "occupied" by Russia even as the USA occupied the same.

One more time.

The USA now has military forces in Poland . Where are those Russians?

The OP claimed the West had to from Nato in 1948 because Russia would not leave the countries it was occupying. What do you think was a reasonable time to remain in said countries? Why do you think the USA should have been exempt for removing ITS forces from Japan and Europe?

1948 was 4 years after the war. This while the USA busily smuggling out ex Nazis from germany into the USA. The USA is STILL in Afghanistan and Iraq well after 4 years and in countries that never attacked them. Why do you not apply your rules to the country whose armies are in more countries than any others on this globe?

n addition to the countries seized fully or partly by the Soviet Union, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Finland, Romania, Afghanistan, Manchuria, Mongolia, Japan,..ect The Russian empire before that started as a France sized area "Duchy of Moscovy" at the time of the reign of Ivan the Terrible and expanded to the largest Empire on earth by the end of the reign of Catherine the Great. Too many countries to list, in addition to subjugating and by and large exterminating the indigineous population from the Urals to the Pacific. So, yeah, I think they have the US beat all to hell on conquests.

So let us look at the Czech uprising just as by way of example. It was not just Russia that sent in troops to crush this movement. Poland and Hungary also sent troops. Now 72 people were killed by those forces. Meanwhile around the same time give or take a few years US soldiers slaughtered 400+ in the village of My Lai.

98 percent of the Native Americans that lived in the lower 48 states were exterminated. This included the ethnic cleansing of the Eastern US where one Thomas Jefferson claimed all those peoples should be removed from East of the Mississipi. In his own writings he envisioned the day where all of North and South America was cleansed of these peoples and became the province of "The Anglo Saxon Race'.

Russia and the USA are cut of the same cloth. There no "good guys" and "bad guys" here. The fact remains that as we speak the USA has its Militray in over 100 countries, has its troops on Russians borders and move in more and is destabilizing countries the world over for the benefit of its plutocracy.

The fact remains that the USA promised Gorbachev it would not expand NATO into East Europe. The fact remains the USA supported and funded the Coup in the Ukraine.

The fact remains the USA has more persons in its prisons then The USSR had in its Gulags. The fact rmeains that in the USA over a thousand Citizens are shot dead by its police each year. The Fact remains that the USA and other Western nations pursue the TPP and other Corporate friendly handouts. The fact remains these countries Governments are undemocratic to the extreme and for them to be trying to foment war with Russia even as they condemn Russia for "human rights abuses" is hyprocrisy to the extreme.


#16

Symbolic? The US congress just yesterday voted to send $300 million of military equipment to the Ukraine. So I suppose this is another conspiracy theory from the New York Times:-

"The Pentagon is poised to store battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other heavy weapons for as many as 5,000 American troops in several Baltic and Eastern European countries, American and allied officials say.


#17

Yes, symbolic. $300 million? You think that's a lot of money? That's chump change where the US military is involved. As for the 5,000 soldiers, that's a token tripwire force to show the Russians we're at least somewhat invested in the idea of NATO solidarity. If we really wanted to ward off the Ruskies we'd send a helluva lot more soldiers than this, not to mention leaning on the Frogs, Krauts and Brits to take a more aggressive posture. Of course, the best way to ensure against a Russian invasion would be to load up the Baltic states with nukes, but who wants to go there.


#19

Excellent content Siouxrose,

Especially the video. I'll have to award you the honorary Morpheus Award for that one. It's bound to free a number of minds from the TV Misinformation Matrix!

Well Done.


#20

See, this is the kinda stuff I'm talking about. Gotten used to it? You seem to assume that the US government is the only one that behaves this way, and that this behavior is always unjustified or without reason--or that it always leads to negative outcomes. You don't think that the Russian government or the Chinese government make the same calculations and operate under the same kind of motivations as we do?


#21

Nobody is saying that Russia and China are inherently better. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and sadly for the rest of the world, this has gone to an extreme with the empire.

I agree, that placed in the same circumstances, Russia and China probably would behave like the USA, maybe even worse, if like the USA, they were the worlds only empire that spends more money on its military than the rest of the world combined, and like the USA, had 900 military bases across the globe scattered across 200 countries.

In those circumstances, it might have been them that concocted lies in order to justify the destruction of countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen, that were not properly following imperial orders, and although the lies may have been different, they might well have done it for the same actual reasons.

But in the current circumstances, although those countries may well be corrupt inside, as far as international behaviour is concerned, they are doing little more than defending their own borders, and their external behaviour is not like that of the empire.

As far as outcomes go, they are normally disastrous for the country that gets destroyed, with few exceptions.