Missed your post - public school teacher, busy, re-starting work, assigned a subject out of my field.
“progressives have failed to make demands and back them up. But…progressives are not…a d-party constituency except by default.”
If I follow - not sure I do - my reply is that, imo, the greater threat of Sanders was not simply that he might win, but that his movement was insurrectional in character - threatening to form a near-half of normally LOTE Democratic voters in a more independent bloc prepared to make demands.
Instead - as stated somewhere in another post by me you read - that shifting bloc post-Sanders split into mostly LOTEs and a smaller # of more militant progressives.
“Progressives could…should make demands – but they’ll be ignored as always.”
Quite possibly - I do not presume to know. But - to repeat myself yet again - a) it has never actually been tried, b) a public, anti-democratic refusal to share power would have its own political value in getting voters to ‘go third party’, and c) as stated in my last post, when it seemed to many - including establishment Dem’s - Sanders likely would be the nominee, they began to negotiate - 'so how ‘bout, if you’re the nominee, we have a say too, you know, to bring the wings of the party together?’ Note that the point I take from this last is that D action is influenced by shifting judgement of how much power it has.
“I think we should own their blame and rub it in their faces.”
Agreed - demanding power cannot be a game of chicken where progressives back down and go LOTE. They must demand ‘serious power sharing or both sides lose,’ and be prepared not to accept blame, but to blame the Democratic Party for an anti-democratic failure to represent. Although this can technically work with a small, Green vote in swing states, to have real power, it must be a much larger, insurrectionist share of LOTE voters. And unfortunately, the LOTE’s are nowhere there.
“Super Tuesday Massacre.”
Hah. Super Tuesday Hari Kiri for emperor, imo. Yes, I left out those who fell on their sword in 24 hrs. Don’t know how to judge how much that vs Clyburn played. Both factors…to repeat self - Sanders was apparently surpassing Biden w/blacks (plus many others). A last time - not clear Dem. party was sure its gambits would work.
Last, idea that “black firewall didn’t believe B. could beat Trump.”
Yes…that may be one idea…especially w/older southern black voters…but I think it’s important that this is also a much wider mainstream media idea of voters - ‘Sanders is just too left for America’ - that D’s and their right liberal media have used to scare voters away from Sanders: the unsupported assertion that ‘he just couldn’t win.’ And ‘you wouldn’t want to hurt black people, now would you?’
Will be awhile before I can post again.