Retired general and former Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark on Friday called for World War II-style internment camps to be revived for “disloyal Americans.” In an interview with MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts in the wake of the mass shooting in Chatanooga, Tennessee, Clark said that during World War II, “if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn’t say that was freedom of speech, we put him in a camp, they were prisoners of war.”
FIne. Lock me up. But make damn sure you add the CEO of every major corporation, every corrupt politician, and almost every pundit on the Right making bank by keeping us at each others throat. And toss in the tea party and most of Texas for good measure. Hey, if you do that? I'll go perfectly quietly.
But I'm guessing Wes Clark was only referring to some "disloyal" Americans.
Clark said that during World War II, “if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn’t say that was freedom of speech, we put him in a camp, they were prisoners of war.”
So what about those neo-Nazis and KKK's demonstrating at the SC Capitol?
Might want to replace "Jew" with "Muslim" in the following:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Pastor Martin Niemöller
Orwell was oozing as he listened to Gen. Clark.
I have never trusted this military man for good reason. Hey Wesley, if I call you a war mongering prick does that make me "disloyal"?
Wesley Clark, for some time now, has acted like a whale disoriented by extreme sonar or seismic testing, beaching himself often on some foreign shore. Some misguided souls keep shoving him back out to sea only to wash up again, dazed and confused.
This is not at all out of character for the mental lightweight ex-general.
Well, William Randoph Hearst and Joseph Kennedy supported the Nazis. I guess Wes would have had them interned, right? Of course they didn't openly support Nazi Germany during WWII but, then, the US Congress hasn't declared any wars lately, have they?
I think FDR learned what a bad idea internment camps were for american citizens. If they are not citizens, send their butts back to their home countries.
After they've had the living hell bombed out of them by U.S. and coalition forces, I can't understand why they would want to come to the U.S. in the first place.
Is it just me or is this kind of thinking scary stuff? Decent progressive minded people tend not to be part of discussions where internment camps are being seriously discussed. To be confronted with a fascist mentality and to have it be expressed in so blatant and calmly matter of fact manner is freaking me out!
You know I've always had the suspicion that the Twilight Zone TV show was more cosmic than it let on. Did we have a Twilight Zone moment yesterday and I missed it? Are we in that alternate America that we thought only existed in our nightmares but don't realize it has become real or what?
Interment camps for the duration? What duration is that in an endless war? Undeclared war btw! Freedom of speech includes saying >>> "I don't like what America is doing." Too bad Clark wasn't making a joke! Those camps would have included a lot of anti-war protesters back in the Vietnam War days.
Military tribunals for civilians are to be expected, I assume. Classified evidence unavailable to the plaintiffs, I assume. A speedy trial - no longer than three years without getting at least a hearing, I assume, confiscation of property and assets, I assume, no compensation for loss of income (breadwinners take note) and inability to support families with children, i assume, no means of redress for being falsely ID'd by a neighbor who is pissed that your dog barks at night, I assume?
Wow kiddies... the America you will inherit is going to be really fucked... but then you won't be able to say much about it by then will you?
Rise up... stand up ...NOW... because later is going to be too late! Fascism - that is ...real fascism ...just tipped its hat and said hello!
If you look at the respective stories of Lynne Stewart, PFC Manning, and Ed Snowden, what Clark is proposing is right in line with Bush/Obama policy.
"Radical", derived from the Latin word for "root" (also see "radish") simply means "one who looks into the roots of things". Recall Thoreau's famous passage: "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."
It does NOT mean "extremist", and also note that in my opinion, the phrase "radical right wing" is nonsensical - since the whole thrust of extreme conservative thought is to ignore the roots of things. The proper word here is "reactionary".
I proudly call myself a radical.
For some reason the most salient memory I have of Wesley Clark is that of Michael Moore's past enthusiastic support for this guy.
Moore has been keeping a pretty low profile lately.
Our 4th Reich fascism is racing ahead unchecked. Radicalized? Capitalists are radicalized. Religious fanatics are radicalized. Why did the oligarchs build so many FEMA camps? Harassing us with their Gestapo police forces won't work much longer.
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I think we are pretty much on the same page. The only difference is terminology.
* Up the People! Off the 0.001% and their governmental sock puppets!
As did Prescott Bush who profited mightily from his investments in Hitler's war machine. Maybe punishments for the sins of the grandfather should be wreaked on the grandsons?
And just who will determine the definition of disloyal? And what sort of "due process" does he have in mind?
We've seen this movie before--and it wasn't pretty.
I have a number of Japanese-American friends with whom I would like General Clark to speak.
They can tell him all about World War II internment camps and the irrational race-based hysteria that led to their creation.
I think its' called Alzheimer's disease. .
Minitrue - I do not think we are on the same page although on some issues everyone agrees... thanks anyway.