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What Whales Have to Teach Humans About Capitalism


#1

What Whales Have to Teach Humans About Capitalism

Laura Bridgeman

Any accounting of the commons without acknowledging the presence and interests of others will lead to their continued destruction, to our human detriment as well.


#2

“Should Trees Have Standing ?” (1972); Christopher Stone. Highly recommend this legal argument.

Also, from Carlo Rovelli’s “Reality is not what it Seems”

“To a wise man the whole earth is open, because the true country of a virtuous soul is the entire universe.”

  • Democritus, ca 450 BCE

Great article - I will check out this SONAR website of Laura Bridgeman


#3

Especially ironic that these are creatures just as intelligent as we are, but in a different way.
The human enterprise still has some growing up to do.


#4

Bravo~ I think I remember being taught in school that all nature//species/human life is interconnected and we do depend on this connectiveness to survive. We may have superior brains which seems debate able in this age of greed and profit at all costs.


#5

From the perspective of the individual whale, it’s never in its interests to be eaten. Perhaps in a hundred years, we will no longer be eating animals.


#6

“…we will no longer be eating animals.” The deer, the cow, the hen, the whale, the pig, the tuna–it’s never in their interests to be eaten.


#7

Excellent article. Ethics – and accounting – must encompass all reality, not be narrowed down to a “utilitarian” humanism, or reduce everything to its financial value.


#8

Cetaceans can also teach us that it is possible to live in harmony with Earth. And to use our intelligence to leave Earth healthy and pollinated.

Capitalism requires infinite growth forever on a finite planet. Sure, mega capitalists dream of science fiction galactic empires; That don’t mean they have the right to take out the biosphere in a mad quest to be top dog.

Humanity will show a real sign of possible survival when cetaceans are given the vote.


#9

The gist of the article is exactly what most ancient cultures were maintaining when they were not trying to get rich in their primitive ways until the muskets and colonization came along.

Well, there might not be enough time left for respecting what the world had to offer before we sprayed our seeds over every inch of the planet.


#10

Whales, pigs, dolphins, cows, birds, etc., by virtue of their complex emotional and cognitive lives, should all be assigned both legal and moral standing (in this case, the former is in fact based on the latter).


#12

Really? So there is no over-consumption of fossil fuels, because there is a “real” energy market? Therefore the Earth’s atmosphere must be in balance, not seriously out of whack?

No over-consumption of forests, because there is a “real” market? Therefore the planet’s forests must be healthy, not dis-integrating? The Amazon forest must be healthy, not shrinking and drying out?

No over-consumption of fish, because there is a “real” market? Fisheries all over the world must be thriving, not collapsing under “market” assault?

Ecological activists are not being murdered all over the world, because only pure and natural “market forces” are in play, not greed and theft and brutality?

You live in an ideological fantasy. Your “real” market is a phantasm, that only exists as a propaganda tool of the looters.

In the REAL world, the ecology of the Earth is DIS-INTEGRATING. We do not need your imaginary “real” markets. We need to STOP destructive actions that are literally DIS-INTEGRATING the whole ecological system of the Earth – of which Humans are a dependent part, not a superior separateness.


#14

You live in a fantasy. Your “real” market DOES NOT EXIST. Please join the real world.


#16

“If you don’t have a seat at the table, you’re on the menu.”
–source unknown


#17

There are just too many of us, and space is reduced to just 15% of former use by species other than humans.


#18

Yes, and not used by humans.


#19

Here’s some background:


http://www.maruskiyas.com/northwest-alaska/st-lawrence-island-alaska

This poor kid was excoriated by bone heads who have no idea what it takes to survive out there:

Milk is something around $12 for a half gallon, forget prices for fresh vegetables, for the most part they don’t exist out there. After being flown from Seattle to Anchorage, they have to be flown to Nome, then put on a small plane to Gambell. If the weather is good, they may make it before they rot. These people have nothing else to eat except what they can hunt, which includes whale.

I don’t eat whale because I have committed to not eating anything smarter than me, but I would never criticize someone for eating in their traditional manner.