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When People's Union Overcomes the Dirty Progress in Brazil


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When People's Union Overcomes the Dirty Progress in Brazil

Caroline Kwasnicki

The city of Peruíbe, in the Southeast region of Brazil, home for around 64 thousand people, is now free from polluting projects. And this — it must be said — is an achievement of the community, who mobilized and didn’t give up the fight to approve an amendment to the local law, that prevents the installation of a thermoelectric power plant. If materialized, the project would be one of the largest of its type in an urban area in the world.


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I am all for getting off fossil fuels of course. But activists do not help their cause when they make totally over the top wildly exaggerated claims like ones made in this article. This power plant would have been be just an average-sized power plant but burns gas instead of coal and so its emissions would have been far lower. It would not have had any of the kind of the marine-ecological impacts this article claims. Meanwhile, there the the huge super-city of São Paulo is nearby. What kinds of power plants elsewhere in the region are going to stay running becasue this plant was stopped?


#3

Another win for the community and the planet.
A 1.7 gigawatt power plant is enormous and would have done profound damage to the enviroment.
Sao Paulo did quite well without the nuclear plant, she will do just fine without this boondoggle.
Enough!


#4

Ok so you stop the installation of this plant, what are you going to use instead? The majority of all Brazilian renewable development is not in solar and its not in wind. Its is hydroelectric and biomass. While you are not producing as much CO2, would you be ok with environmental destruction from large hydroelectric dams? Yes we need to decrease emissions, but I find it pretty hypocritical how many of these activists have no problem with large scale hydro removing rainforests.

It would be have far more compelling in my opinion to learn what these activists thought should replace this plant, and how they compared environment destruction of hydro to natural gas? Shame that most activists don’t look to make such arguments and useful discussions.


#5

You assume Brazil actually needs this plant.
Those 64,000 people don’t think so. Yet you decide for them?
There is such a thing as conservation of energy.
At putting a stop to this plant compels Brazilian lawmakers to push for cleaner energy production.


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And yet Brazil is a developing nation and San Paulo is a growing city, whose consumption will rise. It is projected that they will in fact require more energy to support the infrastructure and development planned for the city. My comment was not made to necessarily support this specific plant, but rather provide comparative context.

This article never actually talked about emissions, but rather that than plant would endanger rainforests and marine life. If your concern is the habitat then type of energy you need to support is far more selective than just renewable. Biomass requires the processing and combustion of crops and timber, which would and is currently negatively impacting the rainforest, so even though biomass is renewable this shouldn’t be supported. Hydropower is also renewable, but the majority of Brazilian hydro plants are large in scale and massive in environmental change both in removal of rainforest and its affect on marine life in streams. If these people are actually really concerned about the rainforest then shouting its time for renewables is not necessarily the right answer. Instead they should openly support energy sources that have low environmental impact like solar or offshore wind.


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If you check out Peruíbe on Google earth or Google maps, you will see that is it is a beach community of nice homes - many with swimming pools. So, Peruíbe looks to be be basically a town for the better-off of São Paulo to get out of the city on weekends and holidays - like Wildwood, NJ or Santa Cruz, CA are to Philly and the SF Bay area.

There is a big 50 km stretch of sparsely developed or wild and no doubt very scenic coast extending about 50 km southward from Peruíbe, but with what look like new beach property subdivisions going up. This power plant would presumably occupy only a very small part of the coast.

Overall, this looks like middle-class NIMBY activism to me (note that those attending the protest in the photo are all pretty light-completed). Like their Cape Cod counterparts, they probably would have protested an offshore wind power project with at least as much vigor.

They will probably simply relocate this power plant to an area where poor people live.

Real environmental activism looks at the global picture of things, and does not latch onto NIMBY protests.


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The city of Peruibe is rather small compared to the vast ecological and wildlife refuges, native indian lands, and pristine beaches with sensitive marine fisheries surrounding it.
Allowing a huge power plant here would be like opening up all the coastline of America to oil drilling and all the National Monuments to mining and oil exploration.
If you support one , you support all.


#9

WE ARE ALL PERUIBE

Gentlemen, have you realized that who really loves Peruibe is against the plant and gastrading?

They are those who leave the facilities and opportunities of the big city to live here in this paradise; they are people who want to raise a family and raise their children here;

Who love to wake up early to walk or work out on the beach, and who delight in watching the spectacle that is the sunset in a late afternoon of summer;

For us, who love Peruibe, our natural patrimony is sacred, because our forests, our rivers and our beaches have an immeasurable value;

Anyone who loves this city loves silence and tranquility on any day of the week, just as it favors tourism and the animation of an event, party or holiday in our house and knows how to treat the tourist well;

In addition, we who love this city also have friendships and ties of identity that unite us, just as we are united by this land - we respect our traditions and are very proud of it.

For all this is that who really LOVES this place does not see this plant as a “project” or “venture”, but rather as a threat to everything we love in Peruibe.

Realize, gentlemen. Whoever is favorable to this mill in our city usually lives to criticize it; nor will I quote the expressions that I usually see in these people - just open facebook. They complain when it is hot and when it rains they criticize the rain.

These people aim to “develop” Peruibe at our expense.
And you, have you thought about that? Which side are you on?