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When We're Dancing With The Angels

When We're Dancing With The Angels

The testimony of Michael Cohen - a loser with nothing to lose, a grimy reflection of Trump’s crass, corrupt, "venal and vicious world," an exemplar of Trump's "best people" who knows where the bodies are buried - was a sordid if cleansing spectacle. It was also, noted Elijah Cummings in his stirring closing statement, very painful. "As a country, we are so much better than this," he said. "When we're dancing with the angels, the question will be asked: In 2019, what did we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact?"

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I watched the better part of the hearing today. I had to get up from my seat whenever a repub. spoke, I was screaming at my t.v. too much. I have added Chairman Cummings closing remarks to the front page of my blog for those that need to know what a Patriot looks and sounds like, I can think of no finer example. We are better than this, we must make every effort at returning to normal. It is my hope that we can recover from the sicknesses caused by hate and lies. Love is the cure, compassion is the medicine. Did you not see and hear it from Cummings to Cohen? Can we extend the same grace to those repug’s in that hearing? We must in order to return to normal.

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The only part that I watched was the closing as posted in the CD article. E Cummings spoke to Michael Cohen about redemption and then included the entire national state of moral morass in a call to change. Is it too late for “Normal”? Will the population do better than the lies that are fed to us 24/7 by mass media? Will we learn to not consume the earth with no regard to harmony between all living creatures? Stay tuned.

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Cummings is always surprising. Under that half asleep less than intelligent, demeanor is a raging intellect waiting to explode at any moment. Warning… don’t test it. You will invariably be intellectually bloodied…

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Gilbert, my answer to extending grace to Repugs: I can’t, not unless they EACH issued an apology like Cohen did, admitting their complicity in turning their backs on principle and the well-being of wethepeople, in living a fealty to a monster like Dump, and in ushering our country onto just about the last slope into full-fledged fascism and Nazism (by supporting DHS and ICE and the OC).

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I don’t know a whole bunch about Cummings, but I’ve always liked him. I about barfed when he talked about being such good friends with Jordan (?). But he earned lots of points with me when he was able to use the words that went into Cohen’s heart and showed empathy that evoked such emotion in Cohen. That is a gift Cummings has.

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Get back to normal in the gold ole USA?

The normal level of wealth inequality?
Racism?
Gun violence?
Endless war?
Political leadership in service to oligarchs?
Socialism for big business, cruel capitalism for everyone else?
Endless war?

Cummings romanticism aside, from my vantage point, things are just as normal as ever.

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Can’t agree more. Get back to normal??? This is normal - just without the mask.
If you step back from the she said he said part of yesterday’s hearing and look at it from a summarized distance, what you see is not necessarily a corrupt president, but a deeply corrupt system, which also includes the president.

So much theatrics and posing from all sides just to cover the obvious.

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Don’t bother us with the details.
This is a feel-good moment.

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Tony, yes, I agree, just as Cummings did to Cohen, he extended grace after the deed. Cohen earned it, as they must. But to never extend compassion? I feel that is too much like them.

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Get back to normal?
Oh no no no no, We must get back to Progress! -if we are ever going to make this a great nation. This nation wasn’t great when slavery was practiced, when women couldn’t vote, when labor had no rights, before civil rights were instituted. Make america great again? When was that when america was so great?
We must continue to Progress.

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Loved this - “the sordid if cleansing spectacle”.
Oddly, when i greeted this morning, after watching the disgusting tabloid politics of the Pubs, and, the riveting testimony of Canada’s former Minister of Justice before a committee, i felt strangely elated as if some weight was removed from my chest. It was as if these occurrences promised the likely growth of democracy, accountability and transparency; as if people seeing the potential of governance to work for what is truly good is not just a possibility but an actuality happening right now. Recognizing the sordid present is necessary. Seeing brave people speak truth is wondrous.
Naive as i may be, the disgust at the malevolence and corruption streaming out of ‘leaders’ mouths, undermining any claims of social responsibility, may actually turn people towards recognition that the traditional ‘center’ is extremist and deceptive and must be abandoned to attain the true center - the democracy which hasn’t been tried.
Clean house. Don’t sweep the dirt under the rug and say things are really clean.

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Gilbert, tweak: I didn’t say never to extend “compassion.” I gave conditions which are too reasonable considering where these monsters have taken the country: lives lost, Constitution being shredded a little at a time, incredible cruelty at home and elsewhere, undoing protections, weak as they are, for the planet, elevating the 1% at the horrific costs of needs for the poor, basically imprisoning college graduates in debt, money wasted, giving reprehensible MORE funding for an already bloated military, leaving needs of ill people unmet, ad nauseam.

Now that I make that unending list, maybe I’ll add another few conditions: turning their plush homes into housing for the homeless (to include wrap-around social support programs); 20,000 hours of community service for the disadvantaged; intense thorough training on civil rights and civil liberties…

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Yes, what is normal. You identified a few things that used to be normal in the US. I deeply dislike generalizations because they are so easily taken to mean “what I think” without any deeper thought. Progress is another generalization, but in my mind I think I know what you mean because you listed a few things that were normal once upon a time that we have overcome because the US made progress toward ideals which high-minded and right-minded people believe will lead to a better life for anybody who wants to seek for one. The US is sinking into a morass, but too many people still believe despite current events that we are “better than that”. So, I remain hopeful.

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Republican Representatives Jim Jordan (OH), Paul Kosar(AZ), Mark Meadows(NC) and others did a disservice to the public by not asking questions that might illuminate how and why Michael Cohen became Trump’s gofer and instead turned the hearing room into a 3-ring circus (each of them only in the ring) with their disparaging remarks and childish sign. Michael Cohen was cool under fire. When he spoke, he quietly and expertly skewered each of them as a talented lawyer with the facts can. When the Democrats had their time, their questions allowed Cohen to say what he knew to be true about working for the Trump Org and DJT. His testimony will lead to more investigations.

Chairman Cummings redeemed the day. His extemporaneous closing remarks reminded me of the respectful and insightful remarks of Senator Sam Ervin during the Watergate hearings. He showed respect for Mr Cohen, admiration for the hearing process, and hope for the future.

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I heard this morning the Netanyahu may soon be indicted. Hopefully Trump will be next. The corrupt and criminal leading this world need to be toppled. Congress needs to be swept clean. It is time for truth and reconciliation.

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There were periods of greatness and hope throughout the history of the United States but there has always been the dark side of our history which is large. Yes, it never was great. To me it was great during that period of time in the mid sixties to the mid seventies when the death penalty was outlawed. To me it was great after emancipation and when reconstruction began and black men were immediately allowed to vote. It was great when people stood up against the Vietnam war. It was great when people joined to create unions and stand up for working people. It was great when little people could raise enough money to open a store or create a business. It was greater when we weren’t just numbers to be manipulated. At the same time some great things were happening - a lot of bad things were happening. It was never great but there were moments of inspiration, hope. We are at a time where we need reformation, re-constitution, truth and reconciliation. We need to move forward into greatness.

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Still, Trump is Cohen and Cohen is Trump. We have a HE said/ HE said. Perhaps Cohen was being the real him, but maybe not. Sometimes the role people play , if they play it too long, becomes etched in their soul—but nothing really changes. I always wondered why the Bush 2 people didn’t all go to jail. So we have 2 liars declaiming ---- and America is still as sad as ever.

:-))) Hi Toni :-))) sure do love it when you get going LOL I’m happy to have pushed a few buttons to fire you up. Me? I’m just a mild mannered easy going push-over, I can’t write like you, sure wish I could though.

Chairman Cummings closing remarks were and are so powerful I posted the video to my front page. Am I repeating myself? Hope not. I have a hard time understanding what happened with meadows and the others. This is above party, it’s about us as a Nation. Sure do miss the likes of Sam Nunn, Claude Pepper and others.

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